{"id":144,"date":"2010-06-18T13:10:46","date_gmt":"2010-06-18T13:10:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/?p=144"},"modified":"2010-06-30T10:47:09","modified_gmt":"2010-06-30T10:47:09","slug":"two-examples-beyond-minkowski-ansatz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/?p=144","title":{"rendered":"Beyond Minkowski ansatz"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are two examples of correct polynomials that don&#8217;t fit into ansatz stated below.<br \/>\nI think I have shown these examples to Alessio in April.<\/p>\n<p>More info in the notes of my talk (page 2, polynomials <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/db0\/db007d6a923c2909d42c4292bffca5f0-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w_1' title='w_1' class='latex' \/> and <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/c17\/c172e309535f6ff639b845bddf5e5319-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w_2' title='w_2' class='latex' \/>): <a href=\"http:\/\/member.ipmu.jp\/sergey.galkin\/talks\/talk-2010-03-30.pdf\">pdf<\/a> (or follow the link from <a href=\"http:\/\/member.ipmu.jp\/sergey.galkin\/talks\/10-03-30.html\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Both examples are degenerations of projective space <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/32e\/32e04b4d671e8a75252d094b054b932b-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P^3' title='P^3' class='latex' \/> (grdb[547386]).<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>================================================================================<br \/>\nPeriod sequence 12<br \/>\nFirst 10 period coefficients: [1, 0, 0, 0, 24, 0, 0, 0, 2520, 0]<br \/>\nThe PF operator has N=3, r=4<br \/>\nThis sequence has a smooth toric Fano representative<br \/>\nIt arises from the following polytopes [(PALP id, grdb id, smoothness)]:<br \/>\n(0, 547386, &#8216;smooth&#8217;)<br \/>\nThe PF operator for this sequence is:<br \/>\n256*t^4*D^3 + 1536*t^4*D^2 + 2816*t^4*D + 1536*t^4 &#8211; D^3<br \/>\n================================================================================<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So we start from the familiar Laurent polynomial<br \/>\n <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/21b\/21b30c8546a93fae2a2d339eedcc47d4-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w = x + y + z + \\frac{1}{xyz}' title='w = x + y + z + \\frac{1}{xyz}' class='latex' \/><\/p>\n<p>I. <strong> Argument against &#8220;lattice&#8221; decomposition. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>a. make monomial transformation<br \/>\n     <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/941\/941c0f6808843f11bf44b8fe889d5665-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='m_1: (x,y,z) \\to (xz,yz,\\frac{1}{z})' title='m_1: (x,y,z) \\to (xz,yz,\\frac{1}{z})' class='latex' \/><\/p>\n<p> w goes to <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/9d9\/9d9a804b9b58868757348259e786e574-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w_1 = z (x+y) + \\frac{1}{z} (1+ \\frac{1}{xy})' title='w_1 = z (x+y) + \\frac{1}{z} (1+ \\frac{1}{xy})' class='latex' \/><\/p>\n<p>b. mutate by<br \/>\n      <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/e01\/e0134e329b7f53ab91e606695e04322f-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='f_1: (x,y,z) \\to (x,y,\\frac{x+y}{z})' title='f_1: (x,y,z) \\to (x,y,\\frac{x+y}{z})' class='latex' \/><\/p>\n<p><img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/db0\/db007d6a923c2909d42c4292bffca5f0-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w_1' title='w_1' class='latex' \/> goes to <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/d9e\/d9e74054cf4a156bf9063b5e220663cc-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='\\hat{w_1} = \\frac{1}{z} + z (x+y) (1 + \\frac{1}{xy})' title='\\hat{w_1} = \\frac{1}{z} + z (x+y) (1 + \\frac{1}{xy})' class='latex' \/><\/p>\n<p>Since <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/fe9\/fe9b4504a5876ff1281b5640535581c0-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='\\hat{w_1}' title='\\hat{w_1}' class='latex' \/> is derived from w by transformation from group <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/589\/5891fd4a48f5e5f231916ebdacd4e5fb-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='SCr_3' title='SCr_3' class='latex' \/> it is a mirror for projective space <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/32e\/32e04b4d671e8a75252d094b054b932b-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P^3' title='P^3' class='latex' \/> (&#8220;weak Landau-Ginzburg model&#8221; in Przyalkowski&#8217;s notations).<\/p>\n<p>Newton polygon of <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/fe9\/fe9b4504a5876ff1281b5640535581c0-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='\\hat{w_1}' title='\\hat{w_1}' class='latex' \/> is fan polytope of a Gorenstein toric variety &#8211; (grdb[544357]).<br \/>\nThis variety is anticanonical cone over smooth quadric <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/3e9\/3e953d9e3d7d636134129f663b4e0033-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P^1 \\times P^1' title='P^1 \\times P^1' class='latex' \/>, i.e. a cone over section of <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/ef5\/ef5ec9d5c260da56b2e96dbda25603b8-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='\\nu_2(P^3)' title='\\nu_2(P^3)' class='latex' \/> (<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/32e\/32e04b4d671e8a75252d094b054b932b-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P^3' title='P^3' class='latex' \/> embedded into <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/293\/29367e8380e833a275432cb7272b62d8-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P^9' title='P^9' class='latex' \/> by complete linear system of quadrics),<br \/>\nand hence it is a geometric degeneration of <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/32e\/32e04b4d671e8a75252d094b054b932b-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P^3' title='P^3' class='latex' \/>.<\/p>\n<p>Consider the quadrangular face, corresponding to a singular point. Restriction of <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/fe9\/fe9b4504a5876ff1281b5640535581c0-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='\\hat{w_1}' title='\\hat{w_1}' class='latex' \/> to this face is <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/9ba\/9baa71ce4f48098f618d74b5bdc43fcb-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='u = z (x+y) (1 + \\frac{1}{xy}) = z ( x + y + \\frac{1}{x} + \\frac{1}{y} )' title='u = z (x+y) (1 + \\frac{1}{xy}) = z ( x + y + \\frac{1}{x} + \\frac{1}{y} )' class='latex' \/>. It is not friendly to Minkowski ansatz&#8217;s condition of <i>lattice<\/i> Minkowski decomposition (this is exactly the example of Minkowski decomposition that is not a lattice Minkowski decomposition given in the definition of the ansatz).<\/p>\n<p>II. <strong> Argument against &#8220;admissible triangles&#8221; and decomposing polytopes completely. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Example <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/c17\/c172e309535f6ff639b845bddf5e5319-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w_2' title='w_2' class='latex' \/> from the same notes.<\/p>\n<p>This one is degeneraiton to <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/5cd\/5cd880827c4376b55a127b384d8b15e5-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P(1,1,2,4)' title='P(1,1,2,4)' class='latex' \/> (grdb[547363]).<\/p>\n<p>By monomial transformation<\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/daa\/daa2c0dd9b92728fc0c119d0545b0725-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='(x,y,z) \\to (x,yx,z)' title='(x,y,z) \\to (x,yx,z)' class='latex' \/>\n<p>transform w to<\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/77f\/77f15e5221757022d6454aa33f3bcb10-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w_2 = z + y (x+1) +\\frac{1}{z x y^2}' title='w_2 = z + y (x+1) +\\frac{1}{z x y^2}' class='latex' \/>\n<p>then by mutation<\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/cc7\/cc728da93b67b8d638b3ce338f3ced1d-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='(x,y,z) \\to (x, \\frac{y}{1+x}, z)' title='(x,y,z) \\to (x, \\frac{y}{1+x}, z)' class='latex' \/>\n<p>transform <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/c17\/c172e309535f6ff639b845bddf5e5319-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w_2' title='w_2' class='latex' \/> to<\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/272\/272753866550f4216a0a5fb08268d1e9-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='\\hat{w_2} = z + y + \\frac{(1+x)^2}{z x y^2}' title='\\hat{w_2} = z + y + \\frac{(1+x)^2}{z x y^2}' class='latex' \/>\n<p><img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/5cd\/5cd880827c4376b55a127b384d8b15e5-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P(1,1,2,4)' title='P(1,1,2,4)' class='latex' \/> is embedded as a quadric in <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/657\/65761c2a91650eba2ab19257b078518c-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P(1,1,1,1,2)' title='P(1,1,1,1,2)' class='latex' \/> by linear system <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/e3d\/e3d6d328795ea7cb85fae38ffc7bf9a0-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='O(2)' title='O(2)' class='latex' \/>, so it is a degeneration of a general quadric in this space i.e. <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/32e\/32e04b4d671e8a75252d094b054b932b-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P^3' title='P^3' class='latex' \/>.<br \/>\nThis variety <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/5cd\/5cd880827c4376b55a127b384d8b15e5-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P(1,1,2,4)' title='P(1,1,2,4)' class='latex' \/> is also the anticanonical cone over singular quadratic surface <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/412\/4129826c6af27407a5cedc3e231f1b1c-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='P(1,1,2)' title='P(1,1,2)' class='latex' \/>.<\/p>\n<p>Restriction to the face equivalent to this surface is equal to<br \/>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/c11\/c11677172655caa8994c8a66f4eea622-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='\\frac{(x+2+1\/x)}{y} + y' title='\\frac{(x+2+1\/x)}{y} + y' class='latex' \/>, so it is <i>not admissible<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Z. <strong> How to tune the ansatz? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Universal fix:<br \/>\nallow change of the lattice after creating some of the good polynomials<\/p>\n<p>less universal:<br \/>\na. Allow non-lattice Minkowski decompositions<br \/>\n  AND\/OR<br \/>\nb. Increase the set of admissible figures<\/p>\n<p>Update on June 22:<br \/>\nIII. <strong> Examples further beyond <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>By combining technique from examples in this and previous post we can construct some more sophisticated<br \/>\nmirrors for Tom and Jerry. These mirrors should correspond to degenerations of these guys to Gorenstein cones over singular (Gorenstein or not) del Pezzo surfaces of degree 6.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ll write only numerical details and maybe will provide some geometry later in the comment.<\/p>\n<p>Start from a honeycomb and<br \/>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/656\/65666c8422f22a7959c8c39d2b845f9a-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='u = x+y+\\frac{y}{x}+\\frac{1}{x}+\\frac{1}{y} +\\frac{x}{y}' title='u = x+y+\\frac{y}{x}+\\frac{1}{x}+\\frac{1}{y} +\\frac{x}{y}' class='latex' \/><\/p>\n<p>Using cluster transformations it can be transformed to mirrors constructed from Gorenstein toric degenerations of del Pezzo surface <img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/575\/5759c48eb0a2d688b59b05cbee876c28-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='S = S_6' title='S = S_6' class='latex' \/>.<\/p>\n<p>first to pentagon <\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/d38\/d385be399c2a6930a495bf6903394b7b-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='u_5 = y + x + \\frac{1}{x} + \\frac{(1+x)^2}{xy}' title='u_5 = y + x + \\frac{1}{x} + \\frac{(1+x)^2}{xy}' class='latex' \/>\n<p>then to quadruple<\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/08a\/08ad9663c208da791ecde6f6cdf3013d-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='u_4 = \\frac{1}{xy} + \\frac{2}{x} + \\frac{2}{y} + \\frac{x}{y} + \\frac{y}{x} + y' title='u_4 = \\frac{1}{xy} + \\frac{2}{x} + \\frac{2}{y} + \\frac{x}{y} + \\frac{y}{x} + y' class='latex' \/>\n<p>then to triangle<\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/3e6\/3e66232a609cc10ccea57b8e53ef8e12-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='u_3 = xy + 2x + \\frac{x}{y} + \\frac{3}{y} + \\frac{3}{xy} + \\frac{1}{x^2y} ' title='u_3 = xy + 2x + \\frac{x}{y} + \\frac{3}{y} + \\frac{3}{xy} + \\frac{1}{x^2y} ' class='latex' \/>\n<p>The triangle is fan polytope of Gorenstein weighted projective plane P(1,2,3).<\/p>\n<p>We can mutate it further to get non-Gorenstein weighted projective plane P(1,3,8)<\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/4c7\/4c79ed7688e2be8667fd376c666517f8-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='u&#039; = y + 3x + 3\\frac{(x+1)^2}{y} +\\frac{(x+1)^4}{y^2}' title='u&#039; = y + 3x + 3\\frac{(x+1)^2}{y} +\\frac{(x+1)^4}{y^2}' class='latex' \/>\n<p>Then we choose G equal to 2 or 3<br \/>\nand take<\/p>\n<img src='http:\/\/coates.ma.ic.ac.uk\/fanosearch\/wp-content\/latex\/e2f\/e2f4e15f59650eb0b0f9fefcb4862a5c-ffffff-000000-0.png' alt='w = z + \\frac{u+G}{z}' title='w = z + \\frac{u+G}{z}' class='latex' \/>\n<p>This will be weak mirror for Jerry or Tom,<br \/>\nall underlying toric threefolds are Gorenstein.<\/p>\n<p>Last two are P(1,2,3,6) (grdb[547331]) and P(1,3,8,12) (grdb[547474]).<\/p>\n<p>Triangles may be Minkowski decomposable only when they are multiples of smaller triangles, which is not the case in these examples.<\/p>\n<p>Altmann&#8217;s results on relations between Minkowski decompositions and deformations does not apply here since we have non-isolated singularity (it is a cone over already singular space).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are two examples of correct polynomials that don&#8217;t fit into ansatz stated below. I think I have shown these examples to Alessio in April. More info in the notes of my talk (page 2, polynomials and ): pdf (or follow the link from here). 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